Thu May 14 20:24:32 2020
<8f79fcda> if you re-read what i said – what if a private company makes that decision?
<8f79fcda> then i think you have a characterization of capitalism
<8f79fcda> red herring. we’ve never talked about exploitation of illegal immigrants
<8f79fcda> and – again, i’m not the one fixed on the false dichotomy that there are only 2 forms of economics
<8f79fcda> if you wanted to have a better discussion, why not ask about principals and means and methods as opposed to trying to pidgeonhole me as the monopoly man
<9e126bf3> Its pretty different from juche what is going on here- it’s self reliance and determination of the *individual* that leads to robust society and a collective success. Juche is self-reliance and determination of the collective aggregate but speaks of nothing about individuals. “It implies solving those problems mainly by one’s own efforts and in conformity with the actual conditions of one’s own POLITICS country. (sic)” <https://www.korea-dpr.com/juche_ideology.html>
<7d56dcb3> you have a mis-characterization of socialism/communism
<7d56dcb3> i’d rather have the nation/state be self-sufficient than expecting people to make all of their own shit at home… having to make your own masks at home and selling them on etsy is not indicative of a robust society…
<8f79fcda> then we’re reached an impasse. you seem pretty hell bent on proving me disingenuous, or goading me into taking a position that can be used as a “gotcha ya fuckin’ commie”
<7d56dcb3> i’m just familiar with real chicoms, so i know bullshit when i see it.
<8f79fcda> <https://atxcf.slack.com/archives/CMC5XC1U0/p1589488658223200?thread_ts=1589487305.214700&cid=CMC5XC1U0>
then enlighten us. i was serious when i said that yesterday, and it degen’d into epic rap battle videos and a movie trailer
— i’m just familiar with real chicoms, so i know bullshit when i see it.
<7d56dcb3> did you miss the rest of my rant?
<8f79fcda> i guess I did. you called them the zog… which provides zero nuance or explanation about the principals
<8f79fcda> zog is one thing – but to say that they are one-and-the-same is intellectual laziness
<7d56dcb3> no, i said they were very similar… in how they control things…
<7d56dcb3> scroll up and read the entire conversation
<8f79fcda> I will get to it- but right now i have work to do – to make money – because i’m a low-iq neet who doesn’t understand “real communism^(tm)”
<7d56dcb3> <https://atxcf.slack.com/archives/CMC5XC1U0/p1589402807125500>
— ok so to explain to you the ccp in terms you can understand…
<7d56dcb3> start there…
<7d56dcb3> and see my memes…
<5547a085> False equivalency again. It actually would be hella robust if people could make their own stuff efficiently.
<7d56dcb3> it’s too bad we don’t live in star trek world…
<8f79fcda> yeah, i get that – what i’m saying is that you’ve made a claim that you’re an expert on what real chicoms(tm) think
<8f79fcda> does a meme really establish that you’re an expert any more than I am about communism?
<5547a085> We have survived for hundreds of thousands of years with nothing but natures support. You say not “star trek”, IE replicator, but the truth is most kitchens are pretty well equipped. Most garages are pretty well equipped. Cottage industry was the basis of America and most of the frontier nations until the industrial revolution. I would argue 1971 is the date that a schism occurred: <https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/|https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/>
— WTF Happened in 1971?
— “I don’t believe we shall ever have a good money again before we take the thing out of the hands of government, that is, we can’t take it violently out of the hands of government, all we can do is by some sly roundabout way introduce something that they can’t stop.” – F.A. Hayek 1984
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— WTF Happened in 1971?
— “I don’t believe we shall ever have a good money again before we take the thing out of the hands of government, that is, we can’t take it violently out of the hands of government, all we can do is by some sly roundabout way introduce something that they can’t stop.” – F.A. Hayek 1984
More Info – Podcast Discussions on WTF Happened in 1971
